Quarterly Returns Q2 2018 – A Tale of Two Cities

For my first quarterly return, I’ll lay out the basic plan for the future, and then tell a little story of hindsight.

Quarterly return posts will supplement my monthly Financial Dashboard, but with a different focus. While the Financial Dash mainly deals with my day-to-day, week-to-week goals, budgeting, the Quarterly Returns will cover investments in detail and look at my yearly targets. Here I will track purchases and sales, document my investment strategy, and discuss re-balancing and changes over time. Inevitably there will be some overlap, but I’ll try to minimise this.

Eventually the plan is to display some pretty graphs of exposure, increase over time etc. As I’m still developing my spreadsheets, for now I’ll just make a nice list.

Q2 Returns:

  • Cash Savings Accounts £400
  • Investments £0
  • Esoteric tat £3000


Yearly Targets:

Goal 1: Build an emergency fund.

As per the r/UKpersonalfinance flow chart, I’m working towards building an emergency fund (1).

I currently have a month’s outgoings in our joint account, and working towards two months. I’m chipping away at this, but now I have a month’s worth tucked away (and completed some fairly massive life-costs) I’m going to target debts.

Goal 2: Pay off debts

At the start of Q2 my short term debts were £2.5k to family and £4.3k on 0% interest credit cards. These are now £1,250 and £4.1k respectively. The aim is to bring my credit card debt down gradually, but as it’s at 0% for another 2 years I may indulge in some stoozing (2). I can also now close two redundant credit cards now I have no upcoming credit applications.

Goal 3: Reduce superfluous outgoings.

I’ve managed to reduce my living costs (see below), but an area for future work.

Goal 4: Commence investing!

The target for Q3.

A Tale of Two Cities

Inspired by Ermine’s tale of a dumb property purchase, here’s mine (3). This is a story of opportunity cost, the British love affair with owning our own home, and how as a person sometimes buying is not the right thing to do.

As mentioned in my Musing On… Mortgages post, MrsFireShrink and I were lucky enough to purchase our own home in our mid-20s. There are plenty of reports and opinion pieces currently doing the rounds, detailing how a third of my generation “will never own a home”, how it’s a housing crisis and changes must be made to the broken market (4, 5, 6). Wind back to 2014, and those worries are starting to bubble to the surface, but not yet in the public consciousness.

In those heady, pre-Brexit, pre-coalition-of-the-contemptible days house prices are still rising. Property is still a sure thing. We’re over the 2008 wobble, Dave Cameron is in charge and ‘the city’ and financial markets are looking bullish. Every man and his dog is flipping the equity from their own home into a nice little BTL side-hustle, an earner for retirement, inheritance for the children. The market looks nice and rosy, house prices always go up, right…. right? (7):

Enter stage-left MrsShrink (then MissFrugalStrongIndependentWoman) and I. We sat and planned our future together. I was living in work digs, 150 miles from MrsShrink. These were particularly miserable NHS digs, built after the war and updated when things broke, sometimes (for example see 8). Lying on my lumpy single bed as snow, rain and hail came through the single-pane aluminium-framed windows (which you couldn’t shut properly) I dreamt of a home to call my own. Heating that wasn’t on flat out, 24/7, even in midsummer. An oven that worked, A gas hob younger than me. A fridge lacking CFCs, etc.

The saving grace of these digs was that they were cheap. Really cheap. 90% of my earnings was paying off accumulated student credit card and overdraft debt, or sitting in our first, joint, savings account. MrsShrink and I knew nothing of investing, and to this day MrsShrink is fearful and does not trust the markets. Our plan saw me moving back to join MrsShrink in the city we had studied in, which we had both fallen in love with.

MrsShrink was equally frugal. She had moved in with a friend who had recently bought and was renovating a small terrace. While it was uninhabitable she was staying at his parents, paying a tiny rent, but not ideal accommodation. 6 months in and she was desperate for her own space.

With a small gift from MrsShrink’s mother we had enough for a deposit. The city we studied in was located in the South. An ex-naval city, bombed in WW2 and with high unemployment. Lively, cheap to live in, plenty going on and lots surrounding. Rows of identical, overengineered victorian terraces meant housing was around the national average despite being in the South. Early on we decided we wanted something old, with features, with potential but a manageable project.

The house

We spent six months viewing 20+ houses. We watched perfect houses get snatched up by people outbidding us. We viewed some real shitholes, rotten floorboards and collapsing joists. We stretched a bit and leveraged to 90% LTV on 200k. We planned to be there until we had kids, so fixed for 5 years. In 2014, everyone predicted an interest rate rise.

Eventually we found a place. It was a bad house on a good street, with agents pushing for much more than it was worth. In an area of high demand it had been sat for a year. [Warning sign]. It was vast, full of old features and 10% over budget. It also stank of fags and had some qwalitee 90s additions. Faux plastic panelling and fibreboard partitions anyone? [Warning sign]. The electrics had recently been done (cheaply) as had the central heating (cheaply). [Warning sign].

All this didn’t matter. We were in love with it. We could own this big house on this lovely street, all our own! We’ll renovate it, start a family, make loadsa-cash.

The troubles

We put down an offer for 5% under asking, which was accepted after a bit of haggling. We organised a full structural survey. This showed some damp and rot in the downstairs structure, so we went back to the vendors and knocked another 5% off. We were now on (just) budget. We weren’t fazed by this, every old house needs some work, and for houses where the vendor has been there over 10 years a survey may be the first time anyone looks for problems for a while.

The survey also stated that the walls were covered with thick wallpaper, as were the ceilings, and so the structure was impossible to examine. Fair enough said we. [Error]. As first time buyers we were a quick sale. Besides we were now desperate to be in. We wanted our house. [Error]. We completed within two months.

Walking back into the house for the first time, we were hit by a wall of fag-smell. Didn’t matter, we loved it. We held a party where we provided pizza and equipped all our mates with wallpaper stripping kit. The nicotine/tar ran out of the walls in rivulets. We all got contact high. Once we removed six layers of wallpaper and wood chip (spawn of the devil) the resultant 120-year old plaster was absolutely dead, falling off in chunks.

So it continued. I won’t document it all, but selected lowblows included:

  • Undiscovered rotten joists
  • Woodworm
  • Live bakelite or cloth-wrapped wiring throughout which hadn’t been removed, just run as parallel circuit
  • Replastering throughout as rooms sequentially were found to have collapsing or damaged plaster
  • Drains collapsing, prompting the stack to back up and digging out 7ft of liquid shit in midwinter
  • Fibreboard dropped ceilings in bedrooms hiding fire damage
  • Asbestos boarding
  • Boiler wired through twist-and-tape off a socket, with no fuse
  • Porch collapsing due to rot hidden behind a fascade

Lots of the work I completed myself. The sleet helping to wash off six month old faeces was a particular joy. We dropped about £15k over three years completely renovating. I hate to think what it would cost in labour, as I did 10+ hours a week on it in addition to my 60 hour work week.

The move

Three years into owning our home I was offered my dream job, one that I didn’t believe would ever happen, working with some of the top people in the world. Snag; it’s 150 miles away in another city. After discussions, I moved to pursue it, with MrsShrink following when she found work. We spent the following six months finishing the house to a high standard travelling the 150 miles at weekends. We never got to appreciate the fruits of our labour.

Facing financial pressure, paying rent and bills on one home and a mortgage and bills on an empty one, we let it out. The tenant was a young professional with a young child, highly qualified, working in my field. Responsible we thought. [Error]. The high end finish did not remain smart. The deposit did not cover the damage.

With the tenant out and again paying for two houses we put it on the market. We had to port our mortgage to avoid a hefty 5% early repayment charge. An asking price offer made within a week of listing fell through three months later, days before exchange. Another offer fell through a month later. We finally accepted an offer 10% under asking price six months later. We completed two months after that, exchanging on our new property on the same day.

The moral

Why am I telling this story? Through sweat, tears, blood and new grey hairs we made £15k net profit. About what the house would have gained through local market forces anyway. We have more equity in our new property and gained a lot of experience for the purchase of the current house:

  • Don’t overlook flaws because of love unless you’re willing to pay for them in time, stress or money
  • Don’t assume that a survey finds everything (or is even worth the paper it’s written on)
  • The more layers of cosmetic presentation/ furnishing/ detail in a house, the more it can hide
  • You may not make money on property
  • You can’t tell what tenants are like until you see how they live
  • Market estimates are dung; something is worth what people are willing to pay for it
  • Get paperwork evidence for everything
  • Houses naturally depreciate over time, they fall down if uncared for

Ultimately we learnt the hard way that early in life mobility for work can be a greater asset than equity. The British romanticism of owning our home hamstrung us and tied us to a financial obligation. As young professionals we could have been better served by considering our mobility as an asset. Don’t settle down until you really know you’re going to. There endeth the lesson for 20-somethings.


  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/UKPersonalFinance/
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoozing
  3. https://simplelivingsomerset.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/when-not-to-buy-a-house-a-cautonary-tale-from-a-quarter-of-a-century-ago/
  4. https://www.moneywise.co.uk/news/2018-02-16/homeownership-among-millennials-plummets
  5. https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/apr/17/one-in-three-uk-millennials-will-never-own-a-home-report
  6. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/28/proportion-home-owners-halves-millennials
  7. https://www.ukvalueinvestor.com/2018/06/uk-shares-uk-property-better-value.html/
  8. http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/41/10/411045_a8075d90.jpg

Musing on… Mortgages, what’s your risk tolerance?

I’ve recently been thinking a lot about mortgages, because I’m getting a new one. At the same time I’ve been educating myself about investment risk tolerance (1,2). I’ve done lots of online questionnaire’s to evaluate mine, which broadly show I’m willing to tolerate a lot of risk; I’m youngish, can wait most storms out and have a background in a profession where I have to manage risk daily. I also have the capacity to tolerate that risk; I make a good, secure salary and I won’t be investing money I can’t afford to lose. That’s not the case for my mortgage though, the single last purchase/ cost I’ll probably ever make. A post last week on r/UKPersonalFinance got me thinking:

Stick or twist?

Are you mad Shrink? You need to fix, fix, fix, before the rates go up. Everyone says they will: the BBC (3,4), Newspapers (5,6,7,8), lots of blogs (9,10).

Is what everyone was saying when I was looking last week. Except the rates didn’t go up. We had crappier than anticipated economic results, and the BoE said no (11). It cut it’s growth forecast and interest rates remained on hold at 0.5%.

Well they can’t stay that way!

No, they probably won’t. But they could do, pollsters and pundits have been off before. They said Lehman Brothers, Northern Rock etc were too big to fail. They said Brexit wouldn’t happen. Predicting the future is Mystic Meg’s domain.

Mark Carney – will the last one out please turn off the lights.


Opportunity cost

Four years ago MrsFIREShrink and I were looking at putting our hard-earned deposit down. As 20-something millenials we were pretty unusual to be in that position. We leveraged a 90% LTV on a do-er-upper in the area we both loved, worked and intended on staying in. In those pre-Brexit, pre-May/Corbyn, pre-economic flatline days everything pointed to fixing for as long as we could. 4.29% fixed for 5 years was the best we could manage. That was ok as when we bought we planned to renovate and stay there for 5-10 years.

Fast-forward four years and we’ve moved 150 miles for job opportunities we couldn’t pass up but never anticipated. Our old house is for sale, and we’re trying to port our mortgage to save paying our eye-watering (5%!) exit fee. We’ve learnt that long fixed rates have their downsides (12). We look at others fixing for 10 years, who have no plans to move, and think about their flexibility (13,14).  Going back to those trackers *affix hindsight glasses* had we selected a three year tracker rather than fixing we would have saved thousands in interest. This time we’ve taken information from a number of different sources, and used online calculators to think about our best financial options (15). Cardinal rule learnt: Always consult multiple sources, references and opinions before purchasing.

Where’s the risk?

Why didn’t we go for a tracker 4 years ago? We wanted to minimise our risk to a rising base rate. Despite being tolerant of risk in work and in cash/ stock investments in the past, I’m not for my housing. I started to think about why, and where the risk lay:

  1. LTV – How much you’re willing (or the bank is) to leverage your cash against future earnings.
  2. Monthly repayment figure – How much you’ll be paying back a month, and if you can afford it.

The two are obviously inextricably linked. Our LTV has improved to 80%, which looks to be optimal for interest rate offers. Risks/ costs worth considering:

  • Under-leverage – borrow less, with LTV 60-80%, and pay less on interest due to better rates and lower value. Buy a smaller property, but risk missing out on the extra equity caused by a potential increase in house prices.
  • Over-leverage – borrow more, with LTV 80-95%, and pay more interest due to higher rates. Buy a larger property, put more money in monthly, so more equity in the long run. Greater exposure if there is a house price falls resulting in more negative equity.

The tolerance for this definitely varies amongst my friends and acquaintances. The common theme amongst blogs I’ve read has been to leverage to your max, 90% at least, as long as you have a good duration (25 years+) of work-life human capital left. This seems to be driven by the view that property remains a good long-term investment option. Monevator does an excellent piece on this, although as it’s 2012 it’s a bit out of date (16). Just look at the long term trends below to get the picture:



Anecdotal evidence; I have a close friend who bought on a 85% LTV five years ago. He bought a property in an up-and-coming commuter belt, and the house value increased by about 25% (good on him). He took this and leveraged at 90% LTV on a thumping great Barratt executive home (le sigh), so in his early-30s is sat in a half-million pound house. He’s willing to tolerate the exposure because it’s their dream home and they intend to stay there 10+ years.

Historic Value

Digging a bit deeper into those trends to understand whether now is a good time to go max-LTV is difficult. The question; Have property prices always been a good investment? Could be a whole separate post in itself, but suffice to say it’s difficult to answer. Most property prior to the post-war housing boom was owned by landlords and rented out (are we heading back that way?). The British obsession with owning your own home is a new one. UK house price index data only reliably starts in the 1950s, but this LSE blog looks at land prices going back to 1892 (which helpfully are no longer published) (17).


To unpick this data note that the value of the home is made up of the value of the structure and the value of the land combined. This blog by James Gleeson summarises dis-aggregating house price value (18). From it I take this graph:


So, we see that the value of the structure increased slightly once inflation-adjusted, but residual values, i.e. that value of the land, is the source of most of the increase. This is also visible in the price of undeveloped land. Review the historic trends from the former LSE graph and we see that the increase in value is a modern phenomenon, and the long-term investment strategy of property is not so long term.

Short-term LTV Outlook

Again, another whole post in itself. In 2016 the UK Value Investor reckoned that UK house price forecasts weren’t looking good (19). Two years on and the market, as discussed in recent Full English Accompaniments, looks to be stodgy. Back then, UK Value Investor reckoned that house prices were in a bubble and due a crash. This was based on price to earning ratio data:


From UK Value Investor (19)

Here’s a quick description of what that chart shows:

  • The black line – The average house price in each year
  • The red zone – Where the average house price would have been if houses were historically expensive, i.e. if the PE ratio had been between 5.5 and 6
  • The yellow zone – Where the average house price would have been if houses were at historically average valuations, i.e. if the PE ratio was between 3.8 and 4.5
  • The green zone – Where the average house price would have been if houses were cheap, i.e. if the PE ratio had been between 3 and 3.3″

The whole article is worth a read if you haven’t before. John predicts:

Expected capital gains from UK housing are zero over the next ten years

Which two years on looks pretty fair. His assumptions hold that house prices won’t crash, but will stay relatively flat while wages catch up. Worth considering if you’re buying now expecting a 10-20% increase in the value of your holding. Why waffle about this – it nullifies one of the arguments for a 95% LTV.

2. Monthly Repayment Figure

Back to our original list and the monthly repayment figure. A function of mortgage duration, principal sum and interest rate. I’m not going to go into duration so much, as this appears to be more a personal choice and dependent on how much human capital you have left. Opting to pay a short duration means more/ month, a long duration = less. People modulate their monthly repayment on big houses with high LTVs by going longer on their duration. The risk here is about what % of your earnings you’re going to be spending on your mortgage. Lenders set their affordability calculators on earnings, up to 4.5x, but this has got stricter. There have been concerns that borrowers who were previously approved will now struggle to remortgage due to the affordability rules (20, 21, 22).

The traditional model argues to aim for 35% of your pretax income to go on your mortgage, 45% at a push (23). Dave Ramsey advocates a conservative 25% of take-home (24). UK-wide this is on a downward trend, with Halifax reporting it’s dipped to around 29% in 2017/18, but with massive regional variability (25, 26). This has a complex interplay with affordability and price-earning ratio.

Mortgage Payment as %


Bottom line – you don’t want to be paying so much on a mortgage you can’t afford other day to day activities. Money Advice Service and Money Saving Expert have good tools to work this out (15,27). The balance between fixing or tracking affects interest rate. Generally go for a tracker and it’ll be closer to the BoE base rate, go for a fixed rate and you’ll pay some percentage for the choice. Money Saving Expert also includes tools to compare trackers, or calculate if paying out of a fixed rate mortgage could be better value (28). People are fixing to avoid a base rate rise, and there’s various calculators available to help with this too, allowing you to calculate how much extra you would pay (27,29,30). The risk if you don’t fix – the BoE base rate skyrockets and repayments become un-affordable.

Anecdotal evidence; I have a colleague who’s a bit of a flash git. At 28-29, he owns 3 properties (from a standing start) and drives a new LR Discovery (on PCP/ lease). He achieved this by buying a small property straight out of university, sub-letting rooms, using the cash created for a second BTL property, and then leveraging that for a flat. All on about 80% LTVs. He works full time 48 hours a week in the medical profession, then does another 20 hours on top overtime to pay his mortgages. Just thinking about it gives me the collywobbles.

What have I learnt?

My risk tolerance for my mortgage is substantially lower than for investments. Our LTV is now 80%, we’ve opted for a shorter (2 year) fixed rate on our extension while our other fixed rate runs out, and combined these make up 39% of our take-home income. Once burnt, twice shy. We’re hoping to fix next year on the other larger principal, and that rates remain low. This seems likely looking at conditioning paths (31). Even if it rises to the long run UK average of 5-6% we’re comfortable. In face we’ve calculated that we can tolerate up to a 10% BoE base rate and still be ok. Those would be days of property price collapse, repossessions, defaulting and as Ermine over at Simply Living in Somerset teaches us the hooded figure of negative equity (32,33). We’re not at the 15% of the the mid-’80s, and it seems unlikely we will be any time soon, but my tolerance for the chance of losing my home is minimal (34,35). But if you have the stomach and the wallet for it, then maybe a tracker is a decent current option. Ultimately I’ve learnt I’m not willing to gamble my home or my family, and I’m not so gung ho after all.

The Fire Shrink


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